Q: HAVE YOU EVER COME CLOSE TO GETTING MARRIED?
A: No, never. I have been against marriage from the very beginning, because that
means cutting down your freedom. Getting attached legally to a woman or to a
man, no. Freedom to me is the ultimate value There is nothing higher than
freedom.
It was difficult, because I was fighting from the very beginning. My parents were
in difficulty, my family was in difficulty, but I told them absolutely clearly that I
was not going to be married. They would have been perfectly happy if I had
been going to be a celibate monk. I said, "No, I am not going to be a celibate
monk either."
That was their trouble: if I was going to be a celibate monk they would be happy.
In fact, they would have felt proud that their son had become a great monk. I
said, "No, both are ditches. I am going to walk just in the middle, on the razor's
edge." And I have enjoyed the walk tremendously.
Q: WHAT ABOUT THE PRESSURES FROM THE SOCIETY IN WHICH YOU
LIVED? -- NOT JUST YOUR PARENTS -- BECAUSE PARTICULARLY IN
THOSE DAYS INDIAN SOCIETY WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY CLOSE
AND WOULD HAVE DEMANDED THAT YOU DID onE OF TWO THINGS.
A: I am intelligent enough for that society.
Q: SO, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY NOW TO ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE
WORLD WHO ARE MARRIED? SHOULD THEY ALL GET DIVORCED?
A: Everybody should get divorced, without exception. People should meet and
love each other occasionally, as opportunity comes. There should be no ugly
state when a wife has to make love to a man whom she does not love anymore,
but she has to fulfill her duty. The husband is fulfilling his duty. While he is
making love to the woman he may be thinking of some other woman, she may be
thinking of some other man. What kind of neurotic society have you created? If
you don't love each other, at least be human and say frankly that it was beautiful
to be together, but now it is finished. Say goodbye.
I would like marriage to disappear completely from the world, and with
marriage, divorce will disappear. With marriage, prostitution will disappear.
With marriage, most of the work of the priest will disappear. With marriage,
almost ninety-nine percent of the psychoanalysts, therapists, psychiatrists will
disappear. It is marriage that is creating all kinds of psychological perversions,
repressions, guilt.
It is simply human that you see a beautiful woman and you would like to have
some time with her. It does not need any God's permission. Even your God
committed rape with the Virgin Mary without her consent.
Q: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT STORY?
A: I just believe that story because it proves that your God is a rapist; otherwise, I
don't believe in the story. Jesus must be a bastard. It is certain he was not the son
of Joseph, and just to cover up the whole thing, that great story has been
invented.
Q: GOT GOD TO DO THE JOB!
A: They say God is a trinity: God, the Holy Ghost and the son. The Holy Ghost
did it, but he is part of God. It is just like my hand is part of me and your genitals
are part of you, the Holy Ghost is part af God. Perhaps he is his genitals.
Otherwise, how could he manage to make a virgin girl pregnant?
Q: WHAT ABOUT FAMILY RESPONSIBILITIES, THE MARRIED PARTNERS'
RESPONSIBILITY TO THEIR CHILDREN, FOR A START?
A: Children should be the responsibility of the commune, not of the family. It is
the family which creates tremendous problems in the children's minds. It gives
them all their sickness, all their superstitions, all their stupid ideas, theologies,
religion, political parties. It enforces on the child. The child has to be freed from
the family. If you want a new man... then the family is an ugly institution, its
time is over. It should be replaced by the commune. And then it is very easy: the
commune takes care of all the children.
There will be the father, the mother. They can meet the child, the child can come
to them. But basically it is the responsibility of the commune to take care of the
children. The children will have many uncles and many aunts, and they will
have more opportunity for human contact with different types of people. They
will be immensely enriched.
Our children are very impoverished. They know only one man, one woman, and
they know the constant quarrel between the two. The woman is nagging the
husband, the husband is beating the woman. And this is what you are training
them for. Your boy will repeat you. He will be your carbon copy, knowingly or
unknowingly. Your daughter will repeat your wife, knowingly... unknowingly.
That's why no son can ever forgive his father, and no daughter can ever forgive
her mother. They destroyed their lives. It is absolutely a psychologically proved
phenomenon.
But if the commune takes care, then they will have experiences of so many
different kinds of people. It is my experience that every person is so unique that
the more contacts, intimacies, love affairs you have, the richer you will be. I have
not seen two women who are similar. Making love to many women, I have seen
every woman is a unique personality in herself, her way of making love is totally
different. The people who have never known anyone except their wives are
really poor. They don't know how many nuances, how many fragrances, how
many different ecstasies are possible through love.
The same is true about children. They should be available to the whole
commune. And because the commune is responsible, you need not be afraid
what will happen to the children if you separate. You can separate. Nothing will
happen to the children, the children will be the same.
- OSHO, <The Last Testament> VOL 1. CH. 5 -
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